In a message dated 8/15/2004 5:02:41 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Montreal? 5 Speed ZF from memory. ~Benjamin Well, no. The Montreal packs a V8, not a V6 Bob Abhalter Paducah KY -- to be removed from alfa, see /bin/digest-subs.cgi or email "unsubscribe alfa" to [email protected]