Re: [alfa] Nero Pastello (was: Clear Coat on Alfa Red Paint?)

["Dean W. Cains" <dwc@xxxxxx>]

Hi John:

I always think of a pastel color as one with a muted or pale shade, and I 
think that's appropriate for the Nero Pastello because it's not a pure 
black.  I've never associated the term pastel with the level of gloss, and 
would also say that the older yellow, "giallo pagoda", is a pastel 
color.  Most people I'm sure miss it, but in just the right light, such as 
when the angle of the sun is low, my '87 Spider is a really deep, dark 
gray, rather than black.  It can't be more than a few shades away from 
black, but it's definitely not black.

Regards,

Dean

At 12:54 AM 7/12/2004, you wrote:

> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 21:20:03 -0400
> From: "John Hertzman" <johnhertzman@domain.elided>
> Subject: [alfa] Nero Pastello (was: Clear Coat on Alfa Red Paint?)
>
> Dean W. Cains, responding to Ray Manners' question about clear coat on an 
> '87 Spider, wrote " Well, I've also got an '87 Spider Veloce, and there's 
> no clear coat over the 'Nero Pastello', so I don't imagine there'd be a 
> clear coat over your 'Rosso'."
>
> I had replied to Ray last night off-digest saying that my '87 Milano had a 
> clear coat over a 'Nero Pastello' basecoat, and mentioned my initial 
> puzzlement over the 'Nero Pastello' name. "Pastello" is, according to the 
> English-Italian-English dictionary, what it sounds like- the Italian term 
> for the English Pastel. In English 'Pastel' is usually a light color, but 
> even more usually non-shiny; it is the colored chalks used in certain 
> artworks, and the English term comes from the Italian and ultimately from 
> the Latin, the same root as English 'paste' and Italian 'pasta'. So I 
> assumed that Nero Pastello was the non-reflective or minimally reflective 
> black basecoat which derived most or all of its shine from a clearcoat.
>
> Whatever Nero Pastello is proves nothing about a contemporary Rosso, but 
> if anyone can shed light on Italian use of the term pastello in automotive 
> paints I would be interested.
>
> John H.
> Raleigh N.C.
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